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		<title>Comment on Scopus&#8217;s view of computer science research by Michael Habib</title>
		<link>http://informaticseurope.wordpress.com/2011/07/28/scopuss-view-of-computer-science-research/#comment-27</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Habib]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2011 12:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello,

This list is actually not compiled using Scopus data.  No citation analysis was involved in producing this list.  It is a listing of top downloaded articles on ScienceDirect.

Best,
Michael Habib
Product Manager, Scopus
habib@elsevier.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p>
<p>This list is actually not compiled using Scopus data.  No citation analysis was involved in producing this list.  It is a listing of top downloaded articles on ScienceDirect.</p>
<p>Best,<br />
Michael Habib<br />
Product Manager, Scopus<br />
<a href="mailto:habib@elsevier.com">habib@elsevier.com</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Scopus&#8217;s view of computer science research by Luis Caires</title>
		<link>http://informaticseurope.wordpress.com/2011/07/28/scopuss-view-of-computer-science-research/#comment-23</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Luis Caires]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2011 00:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of interest to this thread. LC

==&gt;

Computing giants launch free science metrics: Nature news

&quot;New Google and Microsoft services promise to democratize citation data.&quot;

http://www.nature.com/news/2011/110802/full/476018a.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of interest to this thread. LC</p>
<p>==&gt;</p>
<p>Computing giants launch free science metrics: Nature news</p>
<p>&#8220;New Google and Microsoft services promise to democratize citation data.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nature.com/news/2011/110802/full/476018a.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nature.com/news/2011/110802/full/476018a.html</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Scopus&#8217;s view of computer science research by Michael Habib</title>
		<link>http://informaticseurope.wordpress.com/2011/07/28/scopuss-view-of-computer-science-research/#comment-21</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Habib]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2011 10:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Bertrand,

Just a quick clarification, the above ranking isn&#039;t actually from Scopus, it is from ScienceDirect.  It is only looking at raw usage counts of full-text available in ScienceDirect.  Scopus data is not used in this lists compilation.  Scopus citations were not considered when this list was calculated.  I apologize if any messaging around the site was misleading..

Best,
Michael Habib
Product Manager, Scopus.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bertrand,</p>
<p>Just a quick clarification, the above ranking isn&#8217;t actually from Scopus, it is from ScienceDirect.  It is only looking at raw usage counts of full-text available in ScienceDirect.  Scopus data is not used in this lists compilation.  Scopus citations were not considered when this list was calculated.  I apologize if any messaging around the site was misleading..</p>
<p>Best,<br />
Michael Habib<br />
Product Manager, Scopus.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Scopus&#8217;s view of computer science research by Bertrand Meyer</title>
		<link>http://informaticseurope.wordpress.com/2011/07/28/scopuss-view-of-computer-science-research/#comment-20</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bertrand Meyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2011 00:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, the restriction to journals is only part of the problem. Even considering just computer science journals (but see Luis Caires&#039;s comments), the results should be very different.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, the restriction to journals is only part of the problem. Even considering just computer science journals (but see Luis Caires&#8217;s comments), the results should be very different.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Scopus&#8217;s view of computer science research by jameskjx</title>
		<link>http://informaticseurope.wordpress.com/2011/07/28/scopuss-view-of-computer-science-research/#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jameskjx]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2011 22:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The problem is it&#039;s looking at journals, not conference articles.

Microsoft Academic Search may not be there yet, but it is getting there.
And Google Scholar isn&#039;t that bad - but either is better than Scopus.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is it&#8217;s looking at journals, not conference articles.</p>
<p>Microsoft Academic Search may not be there yet, but it is getting there.<br />
And Google Scholar isn&#8217;t that bad &#8211; but either is better than Scopus.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Scopus&#8217;s view of computer science research by Luis Caires</title>
		<link>http://informaticseurope.wordpress.com/2011/07/28/scopuss-view-of-computer-science-research/#comment-17</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Luis Caires]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 23:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi,
This anomaly is a consequence of the particular journal selection used by Scopus. A way around this would be to pick a particular subset of the indexed journals within CS, using the selection list on the left of the web page. Oops, unfortunately, the Scopus journal list in CS is surprisingly partial, e.g., it does not seem to include any ACM journal, just to give an example. It does not include conferences as well.
By the way, the SCIMAGO index, used by many governmental evaluation agencies, builds on Scopus, so incompleteness is propagated.
The real drama with CS bibliometrics (assuming it is useful)
is than we really lack a proper database, with independent certification and citation counts.
How can we the community make it happen?
Can Informatics Europe help about that? I guess we informaticians/computer scientists need to make something about that, eventually. That would be an important advance for properly placing our field within the broader scientific community.
It is a pity that DBLP does not track citation counts.
Best, Luis]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
This anomaly is a consequence of the particular journal selection used by Scopus. A way around this would be to pick a particular subset of the indexed journals within CS, using the selection list on the left of the web page. Oops, unfortunately, the Scopus journal list in CS is surprisingly partial, e.g., it does not seem to include any ACM journal, just to give an example. It does not include conferences as well.<br />
By the way, the SCIMAGO index, used by many governmental evaluation agencies, builds on Scopus, so incompleteness is propagated.<br />
The real drama with CS bibliometrics (assuming it is useful)<br />
is than we really lack a proper database, with independent certification and citation counts.<br />
How can we the community make it happen?<br />
Can Informatics Europe help about that? I guess we informaticians/computer scientists need to make something about that, eventually. That would be an important advance for properly placing our field within the broader scientific community.<br />
It is a pity that DBLP does not track citation counts.<br />
Best, Luis</p>
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		<title>Comment on Scopus&#8217;s view of computer science research by Bertrand Meyer&#039;s technology blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Scopus&#8217;s view of computer science research</title>
		<link>http://informaticseurope.wordpress.com/2011/07/28/scopuss-view-of-computer-science-research/#comment-16</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bertrand Meyer&#039;s technology blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Scopus&#8217;s view of computer science research]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 21:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] var addthis_product = &#039;wpp-261&#039;; var addthis_config = {&quot;data_track_clickback&quot;:true};I posted on the Informatics Europe blog  a short note about what Scopus sees as the hottest articles in computer science. VN:F [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] var addthis_product = &#039;wpp-261&#039;; var addthis_config = {&quot;data_track_clickback&quot;:true};I posted on the Informatics Europe blog  a short note about what Scopus sees as the hottest articles in computer science. VN:F [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Refereeing etc. by Olivier Ridoux</title>
		<link>http://informaticseurope.wordpress.com/2011/06/15/refereeing-etc/#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Olivier Ridoux]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 08:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The last remark in Carlo&#039;s message (on the validation of artifacts) is in sync with a remark by Peter Denning in his CACM column &quot;Is Computer Science a Science?&quot; He notes that CS does not behave so well in terms of replicability of experiments, and so lacks a distinguishing feature of the experimental sciences.

This could be a direction of improvement for several of our CS domains.  If replicability of experiments becomes a value of CS (as in Kuhn&#039;s definition of a paradigm), this may impact on the way we evaluate research and researchers.  However, note that values are seldom decided a priori; instead, they grow from the &quot;milieu&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last remark in Carlo&#8217;s message (on the validation of artifacts) is in sync with a remark by Peter Denning in his CACM column &#8220;Is Computer Science a Science?&#8221; He notes that CS does not behave so well in terms of replicability of experiments, and so lacks a distinguishing feature of the experimental sciences.</p>
<p>This could be a direction of improvement for several of our CS domains.  If replicability of experiments becomes a value of CS (as in Kuhn&#8217;s definition of a paradigm), this may impact on the way we evaluate research and researchers.  However, note that values are seldom decided a priori; instead, they grow from the &#8220;milieu&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Refereeing etc. by Marc Shapiro</title>
		<link>http://informaticseurope.wordpress.com/2011/06/15/refereeing-etc/#comment-11</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marc Shapiro]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 09:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Carlo&#039;s keynote is actually at
http://www.cs.uoregon.edu/events/icse2009/keynoteSpeakers/ICSEkeynote.pdf.

Very interesting!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carlo&#8217;s keynote is actually at<br />
<a href="http://www.cs.uoregon.edu/events/icse2009/keynoteSpeakers/ICSEkeynote.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.cs.uoregon.edu/events/icse2009/keynoteSpeakers/ICSEkeynote.pdf</a>.</p>
<p>Very interesting!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Refereeing etc. by Carlo Ghezzi</title>
		<link>http://informaticseurope.wordpress.com/2011/06/15/refereeing-etc/#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carlo Ghezzi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 09:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I also agree that this is an important discussion, which touches many intersecting issues: from more general and basic to specific details. It might be useful to select a focus and maybe have an open in-presence discussion on some of the issues at next meeting of Informatics Europe in Milano (http://www.ecss2011.polimi.it/). This is not to prevent other forms of discussion, of course. Rather, these may be used to define a focus for this discussion.

I wish here to provide some contributions to the discussion on the role of publications and how we as a community should seriously engage in a debate. Let me start by saying that I found Naughton&#039;s points, which spurred this debate, very well taken. They are very much in line with a keynote I gave at ICSE 2009 (which can still be found online here http://www.ecss2011.polimi.it/). The spirit of the two presentations is strikingly very similar: start with reflection within an area and then generalize to question the way we do research and how we assess it.

The point I wish to make here is that in part we (academics) are all co-responsible for the very poor way we evaluate research (and, as a consequence, researchers) and it is in the first place our responsibility to change this. The obsession on papers and publications has been our fault and has been offered to others who are now evaluating us. And the obsession has mostly boiled down to &quot;counting&quot; (the number of publications, the number of citations, etc.). This obsession is now at all levels. Even governments tend to evaluate how productive we are (and how &quot;useful&quot; we are for society) by  these metrics.

I believe it is our responsibility to say that publications per se are irrelevant and that we need to assess the more general &quot;impact&quot; of work. The notion of &quot;impact&quot; is not easy to condense in just one indicator, and certainly (as I discuss in my talk) impact has no relation with &quot;impact factor&quot;, h-index, or similar things. To move down to earth, I believe that we must recognized that &quot;papers&quot; increasingly less help in making progress (research that builds on other research) and transferring results to the world. Actually, they tend to slow down the process. We need to enlarge our view of &quot;what are the results of research&quot; and recognize that many other artifacts are equally or more important than papers, and we need to be able to reward people for producing them. In my talk I mentioned, I did an experiment in which I looked the papers published on a very respected journal, which mentioned the existence of a tool or demonstrator developed as part of the research described in the paper. In almost all cases either the tool did not run correctly, or wasn&#039;t installable, or simply the tool did not exist. I have personally experienced the case in which, having read a paper that mentioned the existence os a tool or interesting data, I tried to get them, but almost invariably had to give up in the end. This story gives an example of what I mean by impact.

If we insist on evaluating papers as our primary object to measure and do not extend the notion of research result to include other artifacts (data sets, tools, etc.) we will be co-responsible for the situation in which we are.

Let me end here with an example of a positive move, which should be generalized in our community. The forthcoming ESEC/FSE conference is trying as an experiment to have an &quot;artifact evaluation&quot; phase in which papers accepted by the conference submit the &quot;artifacts&quot; developed as part of the research documented in the paper, and these are evaluated for replicability (http://2011.esec-fse.org/cfp-artifact-evaluation). This is just an initial step (and spurred heated debates when was proposed). In my opinion, instead, this should become common practice in our field. A check of replicability of results, usability of tools, ... should be part of the standard acceptance process for contributions to conferences and journals. 

Lat, but not least, notice that if we make the selection process of contributions to be inclusive of all artifacts that demonstrate the ability to really build on the reported research, we also slow down the submission rate and let reviewers concentrate on much fewer, but more crucial, things to assess.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also agree that this is an important discussion, which touches many intersecting issues: from more general and basic to specific details. It might be useful to select a focus and maybe have an open in-presence discussion on some of the issues at next meeting of Informatics Europe in Milano (<a href="http://www.ecss2011.polimi.it/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ecss2011.polimi.it/</a>). This is not to prevent other forms of discussion, of course. Rather, these may be used to define a focus for this discussion.</p>
<p>I wish here to provide some contributions to the discussion on the role of publications and how we as a community should seriously engage in a debate. Let me start by saying that I found Naughton&#8217;s points, which spurred this debate, very well taken. They are very much in line with a keynote I gave at ICSE 2009 (which can still be found online here <a href="http://www.ecss2011.polimi.it/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ecss2011.polimi.it/</a>). The spirit of the two presentations is strikingly very similar: start with reflection within an area and then generalize to question the way we do research and how we assess it.</p>
<p>The point I wish to make here is that in part we (academics) are all co-responsible for the very poor way we evaluate research (and, as a consequence, researchers) and it is in the first place our responsibility to change this. The obsession on papers and publications has been our fault and has been offered to others who are now evaluating us. And the obsession has mostly boiled down to &#8220;counting&#8221; (the number of publications, the number of citations, etc.). This obsession is now at all levels. Even governments tend to evaluate how productive we are (and how &#8220;useful&#8221; we are for society) by  these metrics.</p>
<p>I believe it is our responsibility to say that publications per se are irrelevant and that we need to assess the more general &#8220;impact&#8221; of work. The notion of &#8220;impact&#8221; is not easy to condense in just one indicator, and certainly (as I discuss in my talk) impact has no relation with &#8220;impact factor&#8221;, h-index, or similar things. To move down to earth, I believe that we must recognized that &#8220;papers&#8221; increasingly less help in making progress (research that builds on other research) and transferring results to the world. Actually, they tend to slow down the process. We need to enlarge our view of &#8220;what are the results of research&#8221; and recognize that many other artifacts are equally or more important than papers, and we need to be able to reward people for producing them. In my talk I mentioned, I did an experiment in which I looked the papers published on a very respected journal, which mentioned the existence of a tool or demonstrator developed as part of the research described in the paper. In almost all cases either the tool did not run correctly, or wasn&#8217;t installable, or simply the tool did not exist. I have personally experienced the case in which, having read a paper that mentioned the existence os a tool or interesting data, I tried to get them, but almost invariably had to give up in the end. This story gives an example of what I mean by impact.</p>
<p>If we insist on evaluating papers as our primary object to measure and do not extend the notion of research result to include other artifacts (data sets, tools, etc.) we will be co-responsible for the situation in which we are.</p>
<p>Let me end here with an example of a positive move, which should be generalized in our community. The forthcoming ESEC/FSE conference is trying as an experiment to have an &#8220;artifact evaluation&#8221; phase in which papers accepted by the conference submit the &#8220;artifacts&#8221; developed as part of the research documented in the paper, and these are evaluated for replicability (<a href="http://2011.esec-fse.org/cfp-artifact-evaluation" rel="nofollow">http://2011.esec-fse.org/cfp-artifact-evaluation</a>). This is just an initial step (and spurred heated debates when was proposed). In my opinion, instead, this should become common practice in our field. A check of replicability of results, usability of tools, &#8230; should be part of the standard acceptance process for contributions to conferences and journals. </p>
<p>Lat, but not least, notice that if we make the selection process of contributions to be inclusive of all artifacts that demonstrate the ability to really build on the reported research, we also slow down the submission rate and let reviewers concentrate on much fewer, but more crucial, things to assess.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Refereeing etc. by Beppe Attardi</title>
		<link>http://informaticseurope.wordpress.com/2011/06/15/refereeing-etc/#comment-9</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beppe Attardi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 06:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 6/15/2011 17:32, Alberto Sampaio wrote:
&gt;
&gt; My idea for a paradigm-changing would be to subvert it by imposing a maximum
&gt; number of papers by researcher/year. In this way we would be more available
&gt; to do real research work (and, possibly, valorizing technical reports).
&gt;

This is an excellent suggestion.

If everybody would agree on putting a cap to no more than two papers a year when evaluating both researchers and projects, that would make each one consider carefully when writing a new paper whether that paper is indeed better than any of his own two most recent papers.

This will avoid the very common phenomenon of almost identical papers submitted to different conferences and journals. If publishing is digital, not Gutenberg-ian, any improvement to a result could be just simply added to a single publication, keeping a versioning system to allow distinguishing the evolution of the work.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 6/15/2011 17:32, Alberto Sampaio wrote:<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; My idea for a paradigm-changing would be to subvert it by imposing a maximum<br />
&gt; number of papers by researcher/year. In this way we would be more available<br />
&gt; to do real research work (and, possibly, valorizing technical reports).<br />
&gt;</p>
<p>This is an excellent suggestion.</p>
<p>If everybody would agree on putting a cap to no more than two papers a year when evaluating both researchers and projects, that would make each one consider carefully when writing a new paper whether that paper is indeed better than any of his own two most recent papers.</p>
<p>This will avoid the very common phenomenon of almost identical papers submitted to different conferences and journals. If publishing is digital, not Gutenberg-ian, any improvement to a result could be just simply added to a single publication, keeping a versioning system to allow distinguishing the evolution of the work.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Refereeing etc. by Antanas Mitasiunas</title>
		<link>http://informaticseurope.wordpress.com/2011/06/15/refereeing-etc/#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Antanas Mitasiunas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 20:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is essential discussion but quite late discussion. However, later is better than never.

It seems that question of publications is partial question of more generic problem.

Society needs science system as an economic force. Up to now universities do not have an intention to become the economic force and to act as the economic force. Universities require and receive resources as an economic force but act as art or culture bodies. Such contradiction can not last long. There are possible several scenarios:

1) &quot;As is&quot; - universities ignore society needs, society ignores universities needs, influence of universities will decrease, new player in a science system will appear to satisfy society needs;

2) Optimistic - universities will rethink their role in society and accept the target to become an economic force with well balanced education, research and innovation components. Such goal will be supported by adequate criteria of academic career for each individual. This means that instead of publications as the sole criteria for academic career universities will introduce assessment criteria with equal value of education, research and innovation achievements.

3) Pessimistic - status of universities will transform into art and culture institutions mainly humanitarian. Number of universities will decrease ten times. Research will be done mainly by structures like Google. Education will transform to the training to find knowledge instead of building capability to learn new knowledge. Pessimistic scenarios is quite similar to &quot;as is&quot; scenarios;

4) ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is essential discussion but quite late discussion. However, later is better than never.</p>
<p>It seems that question of publications is partial question of more generic problem.</p>
<p>Society needs science system as an economic force. Up to now universities do not have an intention to become the economic force and to act as the economic force. Universities require and receive resources as an economic force but act as art or culture bodies. Such contradiction can not last long. There are possible several scenarios:</p>
<p>1) &#8220;As is&#8221; &#8211; universities ignore society needs, society ignores universities needs, influence of universities will decrease, new player in a science system will appear to satisfy society needs;</p>
<p>2) Optimistic &#8211; universities will rethink their role in society and accept the target to become an economic force with well balanced education, research and innovation components. Such goal will be supported by adequate criteria of academic career for each individual. This means that instead of publications as the sole criteria for academic career universities will introduce assessment criteria with equal value of education, research and innovation achievements.</p>
<p>3) Pessimistic &#8211; status of universities will transform into art and culture institutions mainly humanitarian. Number of universities will decrease ten times. Research will be done mainly by structures like Google. Education will transform to the training to find knowledge instead of building capability to learn new knowledge. Pessimistic scenarios is quite similar to &#8220;as is&#8221; scenarios;</p>
<p>4) &#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Refereeing etc. by Daniel Lemire</title>
		<link>http://informaticseurope.wordpress.com/2011/06/15/refereeing-etc/#comment-7</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Lemire]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dijkstra put it well:

&quot;Not only does the mechanism of peer review fail to protect us from disasters, in a certain way it guarantees mediocrity (...) I sooner blame someone for his publication list being too long than being too short.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dijkstra put it well:</p>
<p>&#8220;Not only does the mechanism of peer review fail to protect us from disasters, in a certain way it guarantees mediocrity (&#8230;) I sooner blame someone for his publication list being too long than being too short.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Refereeing etc. by Alberto Sampaio</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alberto Sampaio]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another issue connected to research papers and not addressed in the really excellent Naughton&#039;s keynote is project funding. I believe that in our days, project funding suffers from almost the same malady. And it is strongly related also because an important part of that funding is for paper publishing. Dissemination is really important, but I see no reason to go to a large number of conferences to add &quot;one or two more words&quot; to a previous paper, even more in the nowadays.

My idea for a paradigm-changing would be to subvert it by imposing a maximum number of papers by researcher/year. In this way we would be more available to do real research work (and, possibly, valorizing technical reports).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another issue connected to research papers and not addressed in the really excellent Naughton&#8217;s keynote is project funding. I believe that in our days, project funding suffers from almost the same malady. And it is strongly related also because an important part of that funding is for paper publishing. Dissemination is really important, but I see no reason to go to a large number of conferences to add &#8220;one or two more words&#8221; to a previous paper, even more in the nowadays.</p>
<p>My idea for a paradigm-changing would be to subvert it by imposing a maximum number of papers by researcher/year. In this way we would be more available to do real research work (and, possibly, valorizing technical reports).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Refereeing etc. by Enrico Nardelli</title>
		<link>http://informaticseurope.wordpress.com/2011/06/15/refereeing-etc/#comment-4</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Enrico Nardelli]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 11:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Really nice!

More and more people are in favour of de-emphasizing conference papers... As Naughton says &quot;Why are we still behaving as if our proceedings are printed by overworked monks on a Gutenberg press?&quot;

I think that returning to a situation where conferences are *primarily* a place where to meet people and do professional networking is an essential step in &quot;rethinking the environment we have created and what it encourages&quot;. And I think ECSS could play a role in this process...

Naughton concludes &quot;may be the next big idea in DB research is ... a new community model&quot;: I think we can generalize &quot;DB&quot; to &quot;CS&quot; in his sentence...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really nice!</p>
<p>More and more people are in favour of de-emphasizing conference papers&#8230; As Naughton says &#8220;Why are we still behaving as if our proceedings are printed by overworked monks on a Gutenberg press?&#8221;</p>
<p>I think that returning to a situation where conferences are *primarily* a place where to meet people and do professional networking is an essential step in &#8220;rethinking the environment we have created and what it encourages&#8221;. And I think ECSS could play a role in this process&#8230;</p>
<p>Naughton concludes &#8220;may be the next big idea in DB research is &#8230; a new community model&#8221;: I think we can generalize &#8220;DB&#8221; to &#8220;CS&#8221; in his sentence&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Australia drops journal ranking (original post by Christine Choppy) by Enrico Nardelli</title>
		<link>http://informaticseurope.wordpress.com/2011/06/05/australia-drops-journal-ranking/#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Enrico Nardelli]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2011 18:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A minister for research that really understand the job! Not easy to find....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A minister for research that really understand the job! Not easy to find&#8230;.</p>
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